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We need to learn how to have a democratic conversation with people who ain’t like us



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(William) Bill Greider:  And ah, and my conviction is.  I, I, I’m not looking for evidence in polling or any place else.


But I have a belief that we have natural allies who are in fact on the other side of the fence, and were throwing things at each other.


I, I don’t wanna overstate that because a lot of them are not gonna be allies.


They’re, they’re out to kill us or at least to crush us.  But, but I would, I urge you to do some sampling and now I am gonna make it harder.


The most obvious grouping that might be worth dipping into is the Tea Party Movement.



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(William) Bill Greider:  Uhm not, not easy to do for obvious reasons but never the less I am convinced that.


If they understood what they are being sold and what they are being told is their objective.  They would say “No, No, Not me.  I’m not on that”


And the Second group almost as difficult but, but more accessible maybe is small business.  And that’s a very conservative group of people.


I know enough of them to know that underneath that ideological framework, they agree with us on a lot of big stuff, including globalization, including ah, including the way the big corporations push them around, and push the country around.


The Third group is the real stretch.  Hold your applause.  We need to talk to the Military.



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(William) Bill Greider:  And I mean.  I mean the people from the bottom up changing the guard okay.


Well, we can, we can be for a smaller, more peaceable National Defence Strategy.


And at a same time discover that a lot of the people in uniform feel and know that they are, they are the victims of these manipulation too



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(William) Bill Greider:  And the…  yeah



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Richard Kim:  I wanna ask.  I wanna ask Patrick and Rinku.  Perhaps Patrick you mentioned the Tea Party in your, in your opening statements.


And we have a question here you know.  How can and should the Tea Party be pulled into, be part of Occupy Wall Street?


Patrick Bruner:  Well I mean I think that it’s ah to a degree already happening.


Uhm we have a bunch of people down there who carry around Ron Paul signs, End the Fed signs



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Patrick Bruner:  And you know I think all of us have or at least I, I do.  Have issues with those ah, with Ron Paul and some of his, his ideas. Uhm but you know these are people that are very easily accessible for our movement.


And I think if we approach it the right way.  Because these are people who have been as screwed over by the system as everyone else, and who are more pissed off about it than most people.


And you know they, they think that they’ve gotten a solution which has been ah, an involvement with the Republican Party and the supposed shift of their message.


But in reality, they haven’t shifted the message at all.


And I think that brings as back to the question about, ah this movement’s involvement with the state.


And I think, personally, it’s very important that we don’t become involved with parliamentary procedure and parliamentarianism.



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Patrick Bruner:  Uhm I can understand the impetus to work from the government.


But I think that the government in its current form at least, in itself is a very corrupting institution.



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Patrick Bruner:  And especially if we can’t, especially now that, that now Wall Street is so firmly, firmly ingrained in it.


You know like the past 30 years the actions to the Fed, the actions of Goldman Sachs has gone hand in hand in hand.

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