Mike Daisy on Steve Jobs and China on Q&A Cspan – Transcribed.



Brian Lamb:  Where were you in 9/11?



Mike Daisey:  I was in Lower Manhattan



Brian Lamb:  What impact did all that have in you?



Mike Daisey:  Uhm it had a huge impact on me.  I uhm I was one of the people that walked out of the city, over the bridge.


And ah I felt that the world was ending, and uhm it had a very deep impact on me, and one the things that it changed in me is you know?


I’ve always been a bit of a, I was a bit of ah iconoclast you know? In terms of my political beliefs.


And the years that followed 9/11 I found myself you know I think, I think I didn’t reckoned with the amount of rage I felt about that attack.


I was very angry. I was very, very angry, very isolated.


My wife was in Seattle when it happened so when she joined me in New York, you know?


After the skies opened up, there was this gulf between us, because she hadn’t actually been here, you know?


She never really, she would never really fully understand and I ah, I should have resolved this feelings.  Instead I nurtured them a little bit you know?


‘Cause sometimes it’s hard to actually let go of anger.  There is a comfort to it and uhm a lot of the monologues are the fact that I supported the Iraq War.


I found myself you know? Persuaded by the arguments that many people where persuaded at that time and then the monologue really reckons with the fallout of that.


And how especially as an artist in the arts community to admit afterwards they supported the Iraq War and then to speak in a candid open way about why you gave your support?  And how you withdrew your support?


Because today, no one, artist or not will ever admit that they supported that war in any way, you know?


There is an incredible silence but I remember that meeting a lot of other people, that I have conversations with that were each step along the past seems so reasonable.


Every step seems so reasonable, and I think it’s important for us to actually remember that because the past is not made up of people acting in an insane manner.


Everything seems reasonable when you’re walking down that road and so the monologue is about those things



Brian Lamb:  Tie together the Fort Kent, Maine upbringing.  Moving to Central Maine and going to Colby uhm, I saw somewhere Colby had a big impact on you.



Mike Daisey:  Oh yes, yeah it’s a huge impact on me because..



Brian Lamb:  How big is Colby College btw?



Mike Daisey:  It’s small it’s oh maybe ah 1700 students.



Brian Lamb:  Located where?



Mike Daisey:  Waterville, Maine in Central Maine.  But it could have been in another planet then as far as I was concerned.


In my whole life I was defined by growing up in Maine and so it was only on Colby that I was really put in contact with the power structures of our culture.


I like, not understand, I did not understand what wealth was until I went to Colby.  I did not really understand that there are people in the world who have a lot more money.  I have not spent a lot of time them, you know?


The spectrum in my, in my small town I knew people that had less money and people who had more money but not, not in like a quantum way.


I do not really understand what it meant to be living in New York City, you know?  Where I lived today thinking about my life today.  I couldn’t have conceived this life when I was growing up in my small town.


And Colby was that bridge. That was this place where I encountered these ideas for the first time.  And really to grapple with things like will is the point of this new life, if these things are possible?

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