And it always gaols me this is part of the story that always gaols me that I had to track them down. Because in the clip the whole thing is online by the end of it, I restarted the show.
One of the reasons I was able to restart a show is I thought, well, it’s a school group.
This was completely crazy but of course, one of the parents, not the person who did this stupid thing, one of the other ones I’m sure has left a note in the lobby with the box office saying “Oh we’re so sorry.We’ll obviously have to talk about this”
There was no note. There was nothing. I got out there and couldn’t believe it. I can be very naive sometimes. I really thought, of course you wouldn’t just do this and leave, but the fact they did.
In fact the group actually wanted a refund and they did not want to contact me and I actually had to track them down.
Brian Lamb: How long have they stayed?
Mike Daisey: Oh like ah 15 minutes.
Brian Lamb: And they were reacting specifically to the 4 letter word.
Mike Daisey: Yes, yes, yes.
Brian Lamb: And you say.
Mike Daisey: I mean if they stayed longer they probably been upset about political things as well I suspect. I mean if your upset about language you’ll be upset about something but BS is the language.
Brian Lamb: What happened when you talked to the fellow that dumped the water on the desk?
Mike Daisey: Well it was interesting you know?
Brian Lamb: And where was he from?
Mike Daisey: He was from a small town in California called Norka, California and that where the whole group was from.
They were out from the Boston area for a choral competition and this is what they chose to take the students to that night that they didn’t research very well.
And uhm when I talked to him you know? It was a good call. He was apologetic and he ah, he admitted that he had anger management issues that he was working on and I appreciated that, you know?
And he talked about how he’s feelings honestly that he has children; he had 2 daughters at that time. I believe they were like 12 and 16, and he was terrified.
He is.. I remember this so vividly. He was saying to me. He was just terrified… about the future. He was terrified about the kind of world they are going to be in.
I thought that was fascinating. Because their actions the fact that they took them in this way, the fact that he felt this way.
I mean I felt terrified too, you know? Like I, I felt like I could, I can actually empathize with that feeling.
I just don’t know if I would agree with the way in which he was addressing it or if the same things would terrify both of us.
Brian Lamb: You, you said to him and you wrote this out I found it on, on your blog I believe. Uhm at one point you said I was raised Catholic…
Mike Daisey: uhum
Brian Lamb: and you said you changed his demeanour when on the phone you said that
Mike Daisey: yeah, yeah
Brian Lamb: What was, what was the change?
Mike Daisey: Well the change was uhm, they really upset me at the time I remember that. He uhm what happened was he saw me differently you know?
I said that and that was a code word for the fact that I was Christian and so as soon as I was a member of his religion, sort of extended religion. He began to talk to me in a much more opened way.
And ah I don’t know it just it really upset me because I could feel how I actually gotten his respect before. Like when I said this thing then suddenly it was though oh now, now we can actually speak as equals.