Joe Rogan: Bill Cooper. What was that guy’s deal? ‘Cause he was one of those guys, let me just say before you can tell me, he was one of those guys that I would read his stuff but I go, ‘Well that makes sense. That makes sense.–Oh he’s fucking crazy.’
Michael Ruppert: Exactly!
Joe Rogan: It was like that was the progression.
Michael Ruppert: Exactly.
Joe Rogan: And so it made me think well what if this guy is like working for them, like making everything else look retarded, like coming up with this one idea that he tosses in about bases on the moon, processing fucking compound race tires for the Corvette team.
You know what I mean? It’s like he would say something like that and I’m like ‘What the fuck is this guy talking about?!’
Michael Ruppert: You know there are lots of people like that and this is why I’ve walked the completely different path ’cause I had to walk the path of complete credibility for 35 years. So–
Joe Rogan: Do you think there’s people that are embedded into that path–that are there just to say stupid shit to discredit things?
Michael Ruppert: Yes, but I also think–I also think there are people who are–feel moved to tell the truth as their outraged.
Joe Rogan: That’s you.
Michael Ruppert: Ah yes but those people would also say something that they know tells to the powers that be that they are in a threat.
Joe Rogan: What’s really funny is a lot of you guys–And I don’t wanna lump you into a category and I’m certainly not putting you in with anybody else since I love your work but a lot of you guys think that–it’s not you, not you but people who are also pointing hands to the government.
They think that there are people out there that are shills. Like other guys that are successful they are competition. Oh that motherfucker he’s a CIA. He’s an operative.
Michael Ruppert: Well, I wouldn’t say CIA but there are definite people out here.
Joe Rogan: For sure.
Michael Ruppert: Absolutely.
Joe Rogan: Right. How many–when you see like a guy on TV and you see him talking like how much time do you give him before you start like wondering if this guy is a plant.
When you see any sort of a leader, any sort of a movement, how much time when you watch them–how much time do you like–
Michael Ruppert:Well, my rule of thumb is that they wouldn’t be on TV unless they’re already controlled anyway. That’s just the real simple way to look at it. You don’t get the airtime. See, I’m invisible to the US government.
Joe Rogan: Right.
Michael Ruppert: I made it–a video that has some good play called SAY MY FUCKING NAME. It’s up on YouTube.
Joe Rogan: I saw that. It’s crazy. It’s fascinating.
Michael Ruppert: You know, I’ve done all the shit, right?
Joe Rogan: And sounded a bit like a jolted lover.
Michael Ruppert: Thank you. Hahahaha.
Joe Rogan: Hahahaha. You know what I mean like it was a chick that banged everybody at the Rolling Stones.
Michael Ruppert: But I was also–we are pissed off.
Joe Rogan: Well, I’m sure yeah I mean it makes sense.
Michael Ruppert: Because I’ve been saying all this shit and like the US government spent–State Department spent 3 million dollars refuting every other 9/11 theory out there.
Joe Rogan: But not yours?
Michael Ruppert: They couldn’t mention my name so–
Joe Rogan: This feel like they don’t have to address you because you don’t have as much mainstream exposure? Say, you know any of these other guys that you–you know what I mean, is that what it is?
Michael Ruppert: Wait a minute, no. I was in this really successful movie called Collapse.