Joe Rogan Experience Podcast 183 Jason Silva


Joe Rogan: They hacked our silly system.  So we had to change it to the first 30 pills.  I ain’t hating you got to do what you gotta to do.  Uhm so anyway just go check all the stuff out. O-N-N-I-T.  Enter in codename Rogan ,get 10% off.

Alright, Brian, cue the music.  This is gonna be some epic, epic, epic shit.


<Music plays>


Joe Rogan: See that, man.  It becomes a totally different thing (laughs)


Jason Silva: I love it dude.  I love the environment that you created here


Joe Rogan: Brian is that a UFO?  You’re fucking tripping me out, man.


Brian Redban: (laughs)


Joe Rogan:  The idea of artist using genome sort of genes for their canvas that is one of the most amazing new ideas that I’ve heard that, that …just that statement


Jason Silva: Oh yeah


Joe Rogan: It really makes you change the way you look at things.  Like, “Oh, yeah.  Really?”


Jason Silva: Especially when the guy that said that phrase is Freeman Dyson.  He’s considered the world’s eminent physicist.  I mean he’s on par with Einstein.  I mean.. but he obviously is also a poet


Joe Rogan:  Right.


Jason Silva: In the way he says it.  “In the future a new generation of Artists will be writing genomes with the fluency that Blake and Byron wrote verses.”

In fact, I just saw him speak at DLD in Munich and he said that soon we’ll have the entire biosphere in the palm of our hands.  Just imagine what that means.  We might be like evolution’s secret weapon.


Joe Rogan: It’s inevitable, right?


Jason Silva: Well absolutely, absolutely.


Joe Rogan: It’s inevitable if you look at the progress that’s been made it’s not gonna stop.


Jason Silva: “What is great is a Man is that he is a bridge and not an end,” said Nietzsche.


Joe Rogan:  It’s so amazing to be here right now while it’s all going down.  This is like the bottom of the funnel, you know, where (makes sound effects).  This is happening so fucking ridiculously fast


Jason Silva: Well, you know what it is?  It’s the first time in history that we don’t need time-lapse photography to be able to witness it.  You know, it’s like you don’t see a plant growing but with time lapse you can actually see that the plant is alive and then it’s growing.

You can see human progress over just the last 100 years through time lapse, you would literally see that it’s like our thoughts spill over into the world.

I mean that’s what human imagination is, right?  The ability to conjure up future possibilities, pick the most delightful one, pull the present forward to meet it.  I mean the airplane, the jetliner, the internet.

It all started in somebody’s mind or in a group of minds.  And then it kind of spilled over.  Like, we literally live in condensations of our imagination.  The Terrence McKenna used to say that.  Which sounds psychedelic except it’s literally true.


Joe Rogan: Pwshew!


Jason Silva: Right?


Joe Rogan: I’ve always thought that it’s such a strange thing that the imagination is this invisible wistful thing that’s inside your head.  It doesn’t really exist it’s just your imagination.  But from that comes everything that’s solid.


Jason Silva: Everything


Joe Rogan: Everything that has been created has been thought up in the imagination.  And somehow or another, it’s so weird that we sort have this like flippant view of the imagination.

We, we value creativity for sure. But just the idea of imagining. It’s almost like get to work.


Jason Silva: Well yeah, we value creativity but we don’t give it the kind of status that it merits


Joe Rogan: Right


Jason Silva: James Gleick wrote The Information.  It’s a book that talks about how the fundamental building block of reality might actually be information.  He talks about it from bit so everything is information.

And he wrote a fantastic article where he talks about how it turns out that our neur- our ideas.  Ideas are just as real as neurons they inhabit.

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