Joe Rogan Experience Podcast 183 Jason Silva

You know, how cities are like capillaries.  Alleys are like arteries, you know?  Geoffrey West of the Sta. Fe Institute talks about this stuff.

And what it shows you is that yes, we are free agents participating in this prog- progression of technology.  But it’s also.. it’s inevitable.

It’s self-organizing.  It’s evolution.  Like, we are just participating actively instead of passively in evolution.  Can we play that one? I’d love for you to–

 

Joe Rogan:  Sure.  How do you get to it?

 

Jason Silva:  <background>  I think he has it, right?

 

Brian Redban:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

Joe Rogan:  You got it cued up?

 

Jason Silva:  <background>  It was the other one that we.. yeah, I think.  Yeah.  This one.  Look at the different.. the galaxies and the neuron and the mushroom mycelium, and the London from the sky and the internet visualized

 

Joe Rogan:  Are they nuts?

 

Brian Redban:   It’s crazy.

 

Jason Silva:  Yeah.  They all share the same filamental structure.

 

Joe Rogan:  How strange is that?

 

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Joe Rogan:  Do all your things start with this?

 

Jason Silva:  Yeah.  Coz my friend —

 

<background>  (video:  …perceive patterns.  Now of course, this means that the true comprehension comes when the dots are revealed and you get Steven Johnson long view and you see the big picture.

This is a deal of patterns, patterns, patterns, recurring patterns of different scales of realities, you know?   Paul Stamets talks about the mycelial archetype and how the information sharing system is like the internet, look exactly like computer models of the universe, look exactly like the neurons, and the brain.

They all share the same filamental structure.  It’s the rise of networkism.  This big data.  Advocates talk about how man-made systems are looking exactly like natural systems.

The more we could measure, the more we could visualize, the more we can visualize, the more we can expand our consciousness.

Recurring patterns are scales of reality that blows my mind and I think that technology increasingly is becoming an expander of human consciousness.

We’re rich in vision and we’re revealing so much more.  It’s like where as one I was blind, now I can see.  Geoffrey West from the Sta. Fe Institute is telling us that cities are really like organisms, you know.

Alleys are like capillaries.  How is it possible that a man-made, artificial, technological system is behaving like a natural system.

The more efficient it becomes, the more it starts to look like nature.  Really interesting weird stuff.  But it makes me optimistic.  It’s like what Steven Johnson’s said.. look, if we can understand all these stuff, anything becomes possible.

It’s the adjacent possible standing in a sort of shadow future.  It maps all the present ways, reinvents itself.  (Exhales) It’s beautiful stuff.

 

Joe Rogan:  That’s another one that’s pretty awesome.  Weird thought that the human brain cell looks like the universe.

 

Jason Silva:  Oh yeah.  Like the galaxy —

 

Joe Rogan:  So strange.

 

Jason Silva:  Yeah.  Like the neuron.

 

Joe Rogan:  Looks the same.

 

Jason Silva:  Yeah.  The galaxy and the internet.  The internet, too!

 

Joe Rogan:  It’s terrifying.

 

Jason Silva:  Well, but it shows you there is reason that these patterns persist.  Because they.. they allow innovation to occur.

 

Joe Rogan:  Yeah.

 

Jason Silva:  I mean the city is the coral reef.

 

Joe Rogan:  When I say “terrifying” I mean just when.. in its magnitude.  So the idea that..

 

Jason Silva:  Makes you feel mystical.

 

Joe Rogan:  Yeah.  The fact the neurons and the.. just..  It’s really hard to wrap your head around it.

 

Jason Silva:  Exactly.

 

Joe Rogan:  It’s all just one soup.

 

Jason Silva:  But doesn’t that awe relieve you of any boredom?

 

Joe Rogan:  Yeah.  Well, it definitely does.

 

Jason Silva:  That’s why I do it.

 

Joe Rogan:  I don’t know how anybody could be bored with any of these stuff.  It’s mind-boggling.  Some people are totally unsettling.

Because they like to think that “this is where I get my coffee in the morning.  Marge?  How are you, Marge?”

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